550 Quintuple Draw MTT at Portomaso Casino for European Poker Tour.
20000 starting chips at 200/400 limits and 30 min. levels.
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Quintuple Draw Games:
A-5 Triple
2-7 Triple
Badugi
Badacey
Badeucey
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Rules clarification:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/65/mttc-live/official-ept12-malta-thread-october-20-31-2015-a-1561980/#post48265666
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=48297627&postcount=12
Q: Are there really antes? Should it be a low starting limit? Should it follow the precedent like OE and Quintuple Stud and others (50 starting big bets at 200/400 limits)? I realize the games will play bigger since it's the nature of lowball draw, but 100 doesn't seem consistent.
A: Draw - Good catch thank you. I think this was originally written for NL Single not Limit Triple. In our 8 Game structures it never has an ante. I'll ask Toby to correct it.
Structure sheets (starting blinds/limits) were not synchronized with other limit tournaments :(. Starting with 100 big bets is too deep, although lowball games play bigger.
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First Table Reads:
1 mid aged Male with glasses from Uruguay, eventually found out he had massive chip lead HU in HORSE DC, but ended up in 2nd.
2 hero
3 middle aged guy
4 late reg - younger guy
5 young guy
6 late register - German PS pro
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Hero late registered, but is unsure of exact registration time (likely in level 2, but possibly in level 1).
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2-7 TD
Hero dealt in button: Kx 8x 7x 3x 2x
Predraw:
(folds to hero)
Hero (But): raises
Vil3 (SB): reraises
Vil4 (SB): folds
Hero (But): calls
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Vil3: 2 x/c 1 x/c pat x
Hero: 1 b pat b pat x
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 8x 7x 5x 3x 2x
Hero's hand after 2nd Draw: 8x 7x 5x 3x 2x
Hero's hand after 3rd Draw: 8x 7x 5x 3x 2x
Hero shows 87532 and wins pot.
Analysis:
Predraw: This is not a spot to cap predraw. Hero has a decent 1 card draw to 87, but it's not great.
1st Draw: Standard
2nd Betting Round: Standard when card ahead.
2nd Draw: Standard.
3rd Betting Round: Standard.
3rd Draw: Standard even when villain pats.
4th Betting Round: This could have been a value bet. Villain may pat/check a 9 here.
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2-7 TD
Hero dealt in HJ: 7x 5x 4x 2x Xx
Predraw:
(folds to hero)
Hero (HJ): raises
Vil3 (CO): reraises
(folds to hero)
Hero: calls
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Hero: 1 x/c 1 x/f
Vil3: 1 b 1 b
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 7x 5x 4x 2x Xx
Hero's hand after 2nd Draw: 7x 5x 4x 3x 2x
Hero called flop bet, but folded to turn bet.
Analysis:
Hero thought it was A-5, not 2-7.
Predraw: Standard.
1st Draw: Standard.
2nd Betting Round: Standard as hero could be getting freerolled by check/raising.
2nd Draw: Standard.
3rd Betting Round: This is a tough spot in A-5 and probably the right fold. Unfortunately, hero did not realize it was 2-7.
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2-7 TD
Hero dealt on button: 7x 4x 3x 2x Xx
Predraw:
(folds to Vil1)
Vil1 (CO): raises
Hero (CO): reraises
(folds to Vil1)
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Vil1: 2 x/r 0 b pat b
Hero: 1 b/c 1 c 1 f
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 7x 4x 3x 2x Jx
Hero's hand after 2nd Draw: 7x 4x 3x 2x 2x
Hero's hand after 3rd Draw: 7x 4x 3x 2x 7x
Hero said, "I kept getting a bunch of blockers."
Vil1: says he had 8x 6x 5x 4x 3x
Predraw:
1st Draw: Hero has smooth 7432x 1cd. This is a standard raise/cap.
2nd Betting Round: Standard bet/call once check/raised since villain is likely pat.
2nd Draw: Standard.
3rd Betting Round: Standard to peel.
3rd Draw: Standard.
4th Betting Round: Hero does not really beat a bluff. Although Vil3 is betting river, hero likely would call with any 8.
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Badeucy
Hero dealt on button: 7c 4d 2s Xx Xx (not low cards, IIRC).
Predraw:
(folds to Hero)
Hero (But): raises
Vil3 (SB): folds
Vil4 (BB): calls
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Vil4: 2 x/c 1 b/r pat b
Hero: 2 b 2 r/c 1 c
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 7c 4d 2s Ks 9c
Hero's hand after 2nd Draw: 7c 4d 3h 2s Jc
Hero's hand after 3rd Draw: 7c 4d 3h 2s 4h
Vil4 shows; 7s 6d 4h 3s 2c (6432 badugi). (76/6)
Vil4 scoops.
Predraw: Standard.
1st Draw: Standard.
2nd Betting Round: This could actually be a check. Hero did not really improve hand and could be behind.
2nd Draw: Standard even after villain drew one.
3rd Betting Round: Hero bets with likely the best badugi half. Hero getting reraised is not good as villain is likely pat. What is villain's bet/raise range? A lot of pat hands with some badugis.
3rd Draw: Hero draws to hope to get half.
4th Betting Round: Standard.
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Hero also saw 76532 (6532 badugi) scoop 87532 (7532 badugi).
AKA: 76/6 scoops 87/7.
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A-5 TD
Hero dealt in CO: 6x 2x Ax Xx Xx (no blockers)
Predraw:
Vil6 (UTG): calls
Vil1 (HJ): raises
Hero (CO): calls
Vil3 (But): folds
Vil4 (SB): folds
Vil5 (BB): calls
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Vil5: 2 x/c 1 x/f
Vil6: 2 x/c 1 x/f
Vil1: pat b pat b
Hero: 2 c 1 f
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 6x 2x Ax Xx Xx (no blockers)
Hero's hand after 2nd Draw: 6x 2x Ax Xx Xx (no blockers)
Predraw: Standard with smooth 6 draw.
1st Draw: Standard.
2nd Betting Round: Standard call given pot size and still drawing smooth.
2nd Draw: Standard.
3rd Betting Round: Standard fold. Calling to drawing 2 cards on last street is a mistake.
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A-5 TD
Hero dealt in CO: 6x 5x 3x Xx Xx (no low card blockers)
Predraw:
Vil1 (HJ): raises
Hero (CO): calls
Vil3 (But): folds
Vil4 (SB): folds
Vil6 (BB): calls
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Vil6: 3 x/f
Vil1: 2 x/c 2 x/c 1 x/c
Hero: 2 b 1 b 1 b
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 6x 5x 3x 2x 8x
Hero's hand after 2nd Draw: 6x 5x 3x 2x Kx
Hero's hand after 3rd Draw: 6x 5x 4x 3x 2x
Vil6 mucks hand.
Hero wins pot.
Predraw: This a somewhat rough draw. With a relatively weak 2cd, this is a call.
1st Draw: Standard.
2nd Betting Round: Standard to bet when improved to 1cd.
2nd Draw: Hero should not keep the 8 with 2 draws to go.
3rd Betting Round: Standard with smooth draw. If hero's draw is rougher, hero should check behind.
3rd Draw: Standard.
4th Betting Round: Hero is likely bet/calling, although a bet/call may be behind some of the time. Villain may check/raise a 74 or worse.
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Hero's stack at Level 5 break: 12000 @ 200/400 blinds and 400/800 limits.
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Badugi
Hero dealt on button : 5h 4d 2h Xx
Predraw:
(folds to Hero)
Hero (But): raises
Vil3 (SB): calls
Vil4 (BB): calls
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Vil3: 2 b 1 b pat b
Vil4: 2 f
Hero: 2 c 1 c 1 c
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 4d 2h As Xx
Hero's hand after 2nd Draw: 4d 2h As Ad
Hero's hand after 3rd Draw: Kc 4d 2h As
Vil3: Shows Q6xx badugi
Hero: mucks
Predraw: Standard.
1st Draw: Standard.
2nd Betting Round: Standard peel after improving to strong 1cd.
2nd Draw: Standard.
3rd Betting Round: This might actually be a fold if hero understood villain's betting range as badugis or better.
3rd Draw: Standard.
4th Betting Round: This might actually be a fold unless hero thinks villain is snowing. Even bad villains will not value bet a Q or better on the river.
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Badeucy
Hero dealt in HJ: 6x 4x 3x Xx Xx (643r)
Predraw:
Vil1 (HJ): raises
Hero (CO): calls
Vil3 (But): folds
Vil5 (SB): folds
Vil6 (BB): raises
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Vil5: 2 x 2 b/c pat x
Vil6: 3 x 3 f
Vil1: 2 x 1 c/c 1 x
Hero: 2 x 2 r
Vil3: 2 x 1 r pat x
Hero did not write down show down.
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 6x 4x 3x Xx Xx (643r)
Hero's hand after 2nd Draw: 6x 4x 3x Xx Xx (643r)
Note: Deck was reshuffled.
Predraw: This may have been a loose call. Many of the other players are tight, so many of the deuces are gone and hero may never get a smooth draw.
1st Draw: Standard.
2nd Betting Round: Hero's hand did not improve. Hero checks.
2nd Draw: Standard.
3rd Betting Round: Standard to check/fold with 2 card draw and 1 betting round to go.
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Badeucy
Hero dealt in UTG: 8c 7d 6h 4s 7x (8764 badugi)
Predraw:
(5 handed)
Hero (UTG): raises
(folds to Vil1)
Vil1 (BB): raises
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Vil1: 3 x/f
Hero: 1 b
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 8c 7d 6h 4s 7x (8764 badugi)
Predraw: This may be overly weak and could be an eventual fold if it gets MW. HU, this is a fine hand to likely bet/bet/check unless hero gets 2-7 TD hand.
1st Draw: Standard.
2nd Betting Round: Villain drew 3 (correctly) and hero bet correctly. Villain did not catch anything and check/folds.
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A-5 TD
Hero dealt in HJ: 6x 4x 3x 2x 2x
Predraw:
(folds to Hero)
Hero (HJ): raises
Vil3 (CO): call
Vil4 (But): folds
Vil5 (SB): folds
Vil6 (BB): folds
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Vil6: 2 x/c 2 x/c 1 x
Hero: 1 x/c 1 x/c 1 x
Vil3: 1 b 1 b pat x
Vil3: shows 76xxx
Vil6: mucks
Hero: mucks
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 6x 4x 3x 2x Kx
Hero's hand after 2nd Draw: 6x 4x 3x 2x 8x
Hero's hand after 3rd Draw: 6x 4x 3x 2x 4x
Predraw: Standard.
1st Draw: Standard.
2nd Betting Round: Hero decides to conserve chips. Since hero is OOP, it is the better pot control play. There is merit to betting since hero's draw is relatively smooth though.
2nd Draw: Standard.
3rd Betting Round: Standard to continue same as 2nd betting round.
3rd Draw: This is actually be a tough decision. Hero does not know if Vil3 is still drawing or pat.
Hero could freeze (check/call previous betting round, then stand pat), but this means hero's hand is never strong. Hero might be able to get to showdown cheaper.
Hero has a relatively premium draw (64), so it is probably better to draw live and try to get value from multiple opponents.
4th Betting Round: Hero is unfortunately check/folding, although hero could periodically try to bluff/raise. Hero does not even have a hand to bluff catch.
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Hero's stack: 700
Badugi
Hero dealt in SB: Kx Jx 6c 3d(63 2 card hand)
Predraw:
(folds to hero in SB)
Hero (SB): calls all in
Vil5 (BB): checks
1D 1B 2D 2B 3D 3B
Hero: 2 1 1
Vil5: 2 2 1
Hero's hand after 1st Draw: 6c 3d Xx Xx (2 card hand)
Hero's hand after 2nd Draw: 6c 3d Ah Xx (3 card hand)
Hero's hand after 3rd Draw: 6x 3x Ah Jh (3 card hand)
Vil5: Shows 5 3 A Q (3 card hand).
Hero: out
Predraw: Standard given hero's stack size.
1st Draw: Standard.
2nd Draw: Standard.
3rd Draw: Standard.
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Hero out 18th of 18 entries. Hero at least won a pot or two.
Two players in particular did not ever play badeucy or badacey. (IIRC, Vil4 and Vil6.)
Many villains were rather tough, and hero noticed some were snowing (1:pat:3 after villain raised/patted) for example.
The MTT was rather small. TBH, hero's track record in lowball draw tournaments is being one of the first people to be eliminated!
Hero is in a lot better shape than before.
Hero needs to continue to gain experience in lowball draw games, especially badeucy. SWC (Seals with Clubs) was very helpful training.
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