7-3-2011 5-5 PLO8 and 1-2 "Big O" Cash Game Session Night 3

7/3/2011 - Sunday Cash Game Session

5-5 PLO8
1 - Lagish - played lots of PLO hands but seemed to understand relative hand value strength for PLO Hi
*2 - Greg T.
3 - hero
4 - at first, guy who just wanted to gamble and leave
5 - (quiet personality, solid 3-6 reg from brazil)
6
7 - talkative guy but not sure of skill set
8 - unknown
9 - tight older person

peeled with a24q (no suit) in bb against a pfr

flop: 532 2 spades
check/check flop
turn: 532 k (2 spades)
check/check turn
river: 532k5 (2 spades)

hero leads kinda smallish (60% pot)

hero scoops with straight

Analysis:
Hero can/probably should lead on turn as a4xx can get value and not necessarily get stacked.
There is some concern hero's in a bad quartering spot so hero did not necessarily want to get stack in against 2 players.
(esp. a4xx with spades and/or a46) are such small parts of range, but are a concern.

Perhaps hero assumed players were somewhat competent and wouldn't be getting it in w/o 46xx+

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multiway w/ seat 7 and seat 5 (seat 6 empty)

I don't remember the exact board, but it was a high board and was devoid of flush/straight draws
ex) K94J9

hero is OOP in sb with awxx (maybe like a3xx no suits)
hero checks
5: checks
9: checks

check/call (3rd player folds - seat 9)
hero: checks
5: bets 2/3 pot
9: folds
hero: calls

hero donk led river, tried to bluff when 9 hits river
hero: bluffs river (80% pot sized bet)
5: calls

hero: shows ace high
5: called with top 2 pair

Analysis: It wasn't the worst play to donk lead a paired river, but there may not have been too many 9s in hero's range. Villain's 2 pair made it an easy call as well.
Hero was obviously trying to fold out a number of better hands.

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1-3 Big "O"
overall game seemed kinda nitty

only hand of significance:

UTG+2 - limps (100bb effective stack)

hero isos limper on the button
AQ853 (2 suit to ace)

flop: ak5 2 diamonds
villain: checks
hero cbet in position
villain calls

turn:
ak5 7? 2 diamonds (it could have been an 8)
villain: check
hero: check

river:
ak5 7 j? 2 diamonds (J was a paint card)
villain: donk bets river
hero: call river bet on end

Analysis:
In a heads up situation, I'm not sure if I can get villain to fold enough.
top and bottom + bad low draw isn't really that strong of a hand especially with everyone with 5 cards. River calls seems ok b/c villain's opponent needs to have

7-2-2011 5-5 PLO8 and 1-2 "Big O" Cash Game Session Night 2

5/5 PLO8
hero was dealt this hand in late position and called another person's pfr
a3tt (2 suit to ace)
t82kt

2 players (seat 2 and 7) - call both streets

11bb on flop
31bb on turn

[hero has 20bb behind]

Analysis:
Hero could have avoided 'balancing' and betted more on the flop/turn.

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This hand just shows that "freerolls" are bad. Sometimes, you really need to "fold the nuts"
It's extremely applicable in PLO High as well.

2: [~275bb deep]
6: [~300bb deep]
7: [~230bb deep] - probably inexperienced

J89 rainbow
2: checks
6: bets
7: calls
2: raises
6: calls
7: repots
2: folds

6 - KQT3 rainbow
7 - AQTT

J89xT

Analysis:
With AQ and no redraw, 7 has to slow down and not get his stack in w/ naked nut high and no redraws

7-1-2011 5-5 PLO8 and 1-2 "Big O" Cash Game Session Night 1

5/5 PLO8
300-uncapped buyin.

PLO8 (and PLO) games allow Mississippi straddles on the button. I sometimes chose to do it, allowing action to start at the SB.

short session (1 hr)
CO - just moved to my table (b/c other game broke)

CO opens
I repot to 13bb w/ Ah As 3c 4d

Flop: Kh Qh 9s
CO: check
hero: check

Turn: Kh Qh 9s 6c
CO: bets 1/2 psb
hero: calls


River: Kh Qh 9s 6c 4h
CO: bets pot
hero: thinks for a little bit, then repots all in (40bb to win ~100bb)
CO: asks for chip count, then folds

Analysis:
Hero most times should have cbet the flop, tbh. However, it's a board that doesn't hit the standard PLO8's 3b range (AAW*) unless i have nfd.

Hero was calling and looking to bet any river heart. Since there's no low on board, it's a good play.
If it's not a heart, hero can reeval river action
Note: An overpair has almost no equity.

When heart comes on river and villain pots into me, he's repping a flush.
I repot all in repping nut flush using PLO high's "naked ace bluff"

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I move over to play some Big "O" (my first experience). It's played as a 1-3 w/ 5 bringin.
$100-500 min/max buyin.
Mississippi straddles on the button are allowed ranging from $5-10.


1-3 "Big O"
3 potted with AA38Q ds

~48bb preflop after hero 3betted pre (4 players)

approximate flop: 48J (1 of my suits)

hero: checks
another player: checks
short stack: shoves 15-20 bb all in
everyone calls, including hero

Analysis:
1. Hero peeled flop w/ backdoor flush/2nd nut low draw (1/6 pot bet all in with 4 players)
2. hero had to fold when didn't turn my backdoor flush draw on the turn and likely hoping for 2 just to maybe not get quartered


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1 other hand involved hero with AKQJ4 (no suit) on button straddle and only BB is in pot.

limped pot (2 players: bb and button straddle)

4KT83 rainbow
bb: checks
Hero bets flop (approx. 80%)
bb: calls

turn:
bb: check
hero: bets turn (approx. 80%)
bb: calls

river:
bb: bets pot
hero: tank/calls

Analysis:
Flop and turn: Cbet seemed ok and gets value from straight draws, etc…
On river: Hero is hoping to get money back. It puts 3 low on board and hero is hoping to get to showdown with bad 2 pair/no low. There weren’t really any straight combos that got there and only a low really got there.
Fortunately, villain showed naked low (and a pair for high) and it’s a chop.

5-5 PLO8 Cash at the Rio Day 2

1 - rotated around - 2/4 plo8 grinder initially
2 - solid player
3 - john - canadian - played gn tourney where i doubled up big on the end when 2 counterfeited his low (after doubling through Leif 3x)
4 - hero
5 - tight solid player
6 - random people who may not have understood holdem at all
7 - random people who may not have understood holdem at all
8 - ditto
[9 hole - somewhat aggressive player]
10 - holdem player transitioning - only seemed to raise with aces/kings


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hero - preflop raiser with akjw no suits (w = 2-5) after 2 limpers
kj49t (turn - 3rd of suit for flush)

flop:
2 checks
hero bets flop
2 callers

Turn:
3 checks

river:
2 checks
hero: bets 4/5 pot on river
got fold from other 2 players

analysis:
Hand could be ahead. With 3 flush and broadway straight draw on board, this may be a very thin value bet (or turning a made hand into a bluff), if a value bet at all. Retroactively, I think I had decent showdown value with 2 pair that I did not need to bet it as most players would call with straights and low flushes

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board: a35t4
hero: pfr
aa4k ss to ace

tight/solid player calls behind

hero: bets 4/5 pot on flop
villain: calls

turn:
hero: checks
villain: checks

river:
hero: checks
villain: checks

analysis:
Hero essentially has a bluff catcher. Without reads on opponent's ranges, can only beat a bluff at this point.
Any hand with 2 wheel cards that include a 2 (ex) A2) has a straight. 26xx (such as 2356) could 3/4 someone easily.
Hero may have thought about bluffing....but, villain does not look like type that would have folded even if getting quartered...


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board: 25qj4

hero pfr aqq5
hero: flops top set queens, no low draw

betting:
flop:
hero: bets 4/5 pot
villain: calls

turn:
hero: bets 3/4 pot
villain: calls

river
hero checks OOP
villain (seemed to be very tight/solid): bets pot
hero: folds

Analysis: When hero checks on end, hero rarely has a3xx.
strong possibility villain could bluff here and represent a3xx

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collecting time (7 per 1/2 hour - more expensive than the standard rake - fyi - b/c fewer hands per hour (10-12)
just as i was about to stand up b/c they were collecting time
lights go out everywhere -

dealers were told to keep their bodies over the chips

http://www.pokernews.com/live-reporting/2010-wsop/event-41/post.153722.htm

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summary:
lost about 40 bets

5-5 PLO8 Cash at the Rio Day 1

side note: there were 4-5 tables going all WSOP for the Big "O". Essentially, it's 5 card PLO8. From what i heard, the game was very action driven early in the series, but had become nitty by the time I was cash gaming at the Rio.
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woman in 1 seat - seemed to be giving lots of action
chased nut low draws, et al
hero's hand: aqj3

she limped
i pot raised
everyone else folded
she calls

j42q7

flop
villain: checks
hero: bets 3/4 pot
villain: calls

turn
villain: checks
hero: bets 2/3 pot
villain: calls

river
villain: instapotted me all in on river (2/3 pot sized bet)
she thought she had a straight
hero: calls

hero scoops and double up (villain was 160bb+ deep, hero was around 100bb)

analysis: I think she would have probably ended up calling anyway thinking 2 pair may be good

she had earlier kept betting pot when i check/called with low draw (and some outs to scoop); hit it with counterfeit protection, and she kept betting 2 pair w/ no chance of scooping; I freerolled her - any diamond or pair for my hand gave me trips

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another example hand:

she seemed to only bet high hands
board on turn: 47d9d6
hero's hand: a24d5d
villain's hand: 8tbb (b = [TJQKA])

villain only started betting on turn with straight (no low, only getting freerolled here)

analysis:
hero is freerolling for diamonds for scoop; against villain's hand, hero already locked up low (with counterfeit protection)
unfortunately, no diamond came and pot was chopped

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a235 2 suited to ace (ie: ah2h3d5s)
straddle existed ($10)

woman - raises (pot) preflop in early position
i flat call
youngish kid (he had been playing the 5-10 Big "O" (5 card PLO8) - repopped on button for 27bb (i originally played the 325 PLO8 sat with him)
call
call

qjt rainbow flop
she pots - everyone folds...

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up about 70 bets

1-3 PLO8 Cash at Binion's

didn't realize it existed until i looked on 2+2 and they said the game was running on saturday called poker room - found out it was going
The game likely was in force because of the PLO8 MTT at same location the next day. In addition, PLO8 WSOP week "unofficially" started...

buyins were uncapped!
table seemed very "gambly".
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limped with a842 ds
kqt 2 hearts - someone pots it - not priced in to call

session length: about 2.4 hours

a3kt ds
hero raised preflop/gets called by 1 player

flop: 529 (one of my suit to ace)
villain 1: checks
hero cbets flop
villain 2: calls


529k
analysis:
turn: picked up nut flush draw + top pair -
villain 1: small lead from someone else -
hero: repots
villain 2 who said he plays nlo8): calls
villain 1: folds
river
529ka
a counterfeits hero's hand
hero:  checks
villain:  bets
hero: forced to fold

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unraised pot, I limp with
my hand: 6432 - freeroll

flop: 52a
(don't remember number of players to flop; likely 3 total)

Analysis: With a nut low wrap, made wheel, and redraws to a better straight, this is a "jam and hope to get other

players to call to get quartered" situation.

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miscellaneous problems:
i tended not to remember the pot size, so i ended up "saying overbets", which i think caused one of the players to

just keep folding

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results:
-15 bets @ 1/3